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PostSubject: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 26 Apr - 2:34

ermm...ape tu wagate ek??
cmne performance die???
ape kerja die???
apa kebaikkan n kburukkan pki wasgate?

nk kaji skit...rs cm nk bli..tp tataw performance die...
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 26 Apr - 14:49

wastgate??? pintu kuar asap ekzos bile gas ekzos dah x diperlukan lagi utk jana boost... tu je keje die... leh set ikut boost brape... nanti kuar la bunyi mcm berkahak kat downpipe... set lebih senang & lebih tepat dr stendet actuator... baik lebih tepat nak set boost... lebih lawa... buruk??? salah set x terbukak... gas x kuar... turbin berpusing compress angin... sampai overboost kebabooo... itu je la kot... aku pun bkntau sgt... rase nak pakai gak tapi nanti la... nak buat wayang...
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 26 Apr - 15:28

smua turbo oem(standard turbo dari kereta) ada wastegate tapi dipanggil internal wastegate. fungsinya utk mengeluarkan sisa gas pembakaran(asap) keluar bukan melalui kipas turbo(turbine wheel) utk mengurangkan pusingan turbo... dlm erti kata lain.. menghadkan kadar tekanan angin(boost) masuk ke dlm enjin.
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Wed 28 Apr - 4:25

aku pon nk tau gak sket2 pasal wastegate nie sbb rasa cam nk bli...tapi nk tau size apa yg sesuai..dah kenapa kene pakai besar ke kecik ke...aku search2 ada jumpe kat tubosmart nyer website..nie ada sket info :



With so many contradicting opinions and recommendations, itís a
little wonder choosing the right Wastegate
for your application can be a confusing.

We try to disspell some myths and shed some light on the most common
misconceptions regarding wastegates.

TRUE OR FALSE

The more powerful the engine, the bigger the wastegate you need

False
. This is one of the more popular misconceptions. A wastegate
is possibly the only component in your whole engine package that can
actually be made smaller as you increase your boost/horsepower output.

Use this simple guide:


Big Turbo/Low Boost = Bigger Wastegate
Big Turbo/High Boost = Smaller Wastegate
Small Turbo/High Boost = Smaller Wastegate
Small Turbo/Low Boost = Bigger Wastegate


Wastegates donít operate in high temperatures.

False. Contrary to the popular belief, external wastegates are
usually mounted at the hottest part of the exhaust. Itís the place where
all the exhaust gases meet, creating extra heat. This, combined with
the late combustion of unburnt fuel (due to rich mixtures, retarded
timing and high octane fuels) significantly raises the exhaust
temperature.

Larger wastegate valve diameter = better flow.


True
Ė sort of. While the valve diameter is without a doubt an
important part of the flow rate, equally important, but often
misunderstood, is the importance of the flow path. When comparing
wastegates with similar valve size, it is important to have a balanced
body/valve/spring combination that is designed to work together to allow
for maximum boost control. All Turbosmart wastegates are designed with
this in mind.
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Fri 7 May - 1:43

sebelaom dyno last week...wastegate TIAL 35mm original aku...bersepai....

valve bukak tutup gate tu tercabut..ketang ketung.....
patutlaaa 0.5 je boost aku....

aku bwk p tong tebo kot2 ade repair kit....kot2 bole repair valve tu..
sekali xda la....yg ada diaphram dengan spring je..

terkejut tong tebo sebab ni first time TIAL bersepai...
kat KANCIL plak tu...die nk wastegate tu...siap offer aku trade in....katanya..nak display...TIAL ori pon pecah ma..... Evil or Very Mad


aku nk tnya....kit wastegate turbosmart ada mana bole cari?sebab kalo ade pon..38mm spring rate 1bar..max 1.5 bar (50%)
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Fri 7 May - 3:37

umangai..
smpai bersepai..
ori plk tuh..
ape penyebab bersepai tuh ril??
adekah boost mlebihi had??

2bar and above??<---rare!!!

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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Fri 7 May - 3:59

skronotoros wrote:
umangai..
smpai bersepai..
ori plk tuh..
ape penyebab bersepai tuh ril??
adekah boost mlebihi had??

2bar and above??<---rare!!!

ntah..sebab..before this..aku notice yang boost aku biol..turun naik..aku ketuk2 controller boostmeter aku..igtkan menatang tu yg prob..myb valve tu dah terbukak sket..

then...bile boost aku sampai 0.5 je...aku cek segala hos berkaitan..bukak hose boostcontroller aku...try jalan freeboost,,mmg tu jugak..0.5..dengar ade bunyik bising..

so..cek kompression kat wastegate...
tadaaa...........bersepai....boosting x la tinggi sgt..hehehehe

so..guys..xde info pasal spring wastegate turbosmart?
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Fri 7 May - 10:46

penerangan yang lengkap dr wakjoi...tp wasgate tial ori bleh pecah mmg 1st time dgr...dasyat jugek...aku skg pkai turbosmart ultra gate 38mm...so far ok laa...boost pn dlm 1.3bar je...bleh hold lagi laa kot...dulu pkai tial 38mm paten lama pn ok gk...mnkin sbb aku boost xtinggi kot...
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Fri 7 May - 12:07

pembetulan bro janggut..aku bukan wakjoi la..

yup..stock spring rate wastegate turbosmart 38mm is 1bar..
so..bole hold around 1.5bar..(50%)

nnt ade mase aku up pic tial yang sial tu..
hahahaha..
duit2...
mana ko...
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Sat 8 May - 9:59

penerangan dri wak joi..bkan UTK wak joi la hairi..
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Sat 8 May - 13:22

bes gak dgr klebihan die.......rs cm nk pasg..pulus3........
ble dgr kburukkan die la yg takot...
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 10 May - 2:10

nih cat ape lak .. actuator HKS ... performance same ke cam wastegate ..?


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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 10 May - 3:09

red_k wrote:
nih cat ape lak .. actuator HKS ... performance same ke cam wastegate ..?


HKS mmg meriah..dari turbine bellmouths sampai actuator ade kaler2..

yup..HKS ade produce some performance parts utk kcar..kalo cek Powerhouse DTM, mmg ade actuator HKS ni utk stock turbine kcar (rhf3) but limited stock utk ef-siries engines (3 pisteng). sebab most powerhouse dtm ni bnyk kuar utk jb-siries engines (4 pisteng).

performance wise? ni cite tebo PIPIT stendet tu ye.
aku misplace la dyno result org jepun buat comparison..mmg ade la slight increase hp..tp, aku xsure actatuator tu bole sustain boost berape bar..ade gak budak pki actuator HKS ni dari kete besar.kalo p kedai potong..rajin2 tgk tebo nissan..kekadang ade skali actuator HKS..

tong tebo pon ade jual actuator aftermarket 1.2bar..which aku rase bole tahan up to 1.8 bar?
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 10 May - 3:14

hhee thanks for the info ,,,,

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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 10 May - 4:06

means utk 2bar and above not rekemen gne actuator nih ke ril??

*nk pkai wastegate xmampu..

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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 10 May - 4:17

bole je torossukatoron

masa gate tu terbukak sket...ade je enough pressure yg still generate boost..
bergantung pada keras x keras la diaphram actuator tu..

contoh:

actuator oem tdo409...1.8 max..beyond tu dah xbole..pasal dah lembut sgt...


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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Mon 10 May - 9:28

actuator hks yg ada dlm simpanan aku

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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Tue 11 May - 14:41

manbew wrote:
actuator hks yg ada dlm simpanan aku


wow! best nya, brand aftrmarket ada kluar kn produk mcm actuator ni ..actuator l2 pl brapa max pressure dia?
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Tue 11 May - 15:15

hairil klau mcm tu aku kena buang laa wastegate ori tial ni...pakai actuator jee laaaa
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Wed 12 May - 0:17

Bearz wrote:
hairil klau mcm tu aku kena buang laa wastegate ori tial ni...pakai actuator jee laaaa

ceh bear..kalo elok lg..pakai je laaaaaaaa...
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Thu 13 May - 9:01

wastegate tail mvs tu ok ke..
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Wed 26 May - 1:22

kalau pakai wastegate cap ayam tu ok tak?? ade sesape penah guna n bole kasi komen?? tak kire la taiwan or thailand etc..

kalau 660t td04-09 pkai 38mm bole ke??

last kali..kalau kete2 compact cam kita neh mane yg lebeh elok.. paip buang luar ke.. atau masuk dlm lik??
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PostSubject: Re: ape itu wasgate????   Wed 26 May - 6:20

ada kawan pakai spec ko tulis td la 660+td04-09+w/gate...cuma saiz 35mm tapi china punya w/gate...ok la...tak der masalah plak....

cuma bunyik mcm tak brape best...myb pasal paip kuar tu besar sgt ko..tp kalau downpipe punya bunyik...srrraaashhhh.....
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